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Tom Southerton · Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:51 pm Post subject: General Meeting Fall 2010

hey Everyone,

I just confirmed with Student Activities. The first General Meeting, which will be when we vote in the new program director and general manager will be Wednesday Sept 1 6 - 7pm.

The second General meeting, which will be when we do the scheduling for shows with be Wednesday Sept 8 6 - 7pm.

Both meetings will be in the Lydon MPR on North Campus. EVERYONE HAS TO GO TO BOTH MEETINGS.

Be there.

Zack Attack · Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:50 pm Post subject:

I'd hate to be a buzzkill on this beautiful post, but does anyone else think having two separate General Meetings is a bit silly? We're going to have one meeting that will last roughly 15 minutes to vote in 2 directorships and then make everyone come back the next week to pick shows? We can do all of this in one meeting no problem. Some people may not even show to the first meeting because they know they won't be selecting their shows.

But that's just my humble opinion... any other thoughts?
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snowman · Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:24 pm Post subject:

i agree, wasnt gonna say anything because im trying to fade out a bit in terms of WUML involvement. but yeah, i think the idea of having more general meetings is a quality one but two in one month, in the period of 2 weeks? you're not gonna get everyone possibe out to each meeting. everyone goes to the general meeting to squat their shows and they mostly only go for that reason (unfortunately). for a vote we need everyone possible to show up cuz it's that important. people dont realize that though and will only show up if it's directly related to their concerns (ie getting a radio show).
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Tom Southerton · Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:39 am Post subject:

I see what you're saying. But it was decided at the director's meeting that it would be best for one night to be devoted to the election so that everyone involved could give a speech or whatever. And also it would give whoever program director turns out to be enough time to figure out how they are going to assign shows. If we have one night where we have people doing speeches and election stuff, voting, counting votes, doing the filling in of show sheets, picking shows, etc. it will take forever. None of it is likely to be done in just 15 minutes.

With enough notice, people will show up to both meetings. If people didn't want to show up to the election night, then they would still just not show up to the first half of the one general meeting where everything is done.

Tom Southerton · Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:41 am Post subject:

Also, WUML hasn't really had to go through an "election" process before because its always been only one person running for a position. So as long as we make it known that we actually have to vote for this one and promote to the other station members/community dj's, then people will show up just to vote, even if they have to wait a week to pick their show.

JSingles · Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:44 am Post subject:

If they don't show up, its their problem because its a decision that is going to affect a program that they are a part of. I would hope people would find that to be important. I think the two meetings makes more sense.

And the whole issue of people not attending meetings / there not being enough meetings needs to change. That holds us back as an organization and its honestly kind of pathetic, and reflects how we are running the organization. I understand that everyone has a different level of commitment, but attending a couple of meetings a few times a semester is NOT asking too much, and DJ's should at least show some level of interest in station on goings. If people really wont come unless they are getting a show out of it, then we need to create more incentive for them to come...

I don't believe in doing what will work best for the lazy people.

Forgive me if that seems a little harsh
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Zack Attack · Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:31 am Post subject:

I'm not saying this because I'm trying to help the "lazy" people out, I'm bringing this up because it's just practical to have one meeting. The election is not going to take long. 50 people writing one name on a piece of paper and then however many people it takes to read those 50 pieces of paper. It will be done relatively soon, it won't be an all night thing. And giving whoever wins time to figure out how to make the schedule? It's a fucking schedule... you draw the lines and pass out the squat forms. You should be prepared if you really want whatever position you're running for. And if whoever wins is really that clueless about it there will be plenty of us around to help.
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Tom Southerton · Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:34 am Post subject:

Seeing as we also have a bunch of shit to talk about at the General Meeting, I am willing to bet that each meeting will take at least 30 min. If we wrap it all in to one night it will go well over one hour and people will lose interest and start to leave.

whoa so rad · Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:46 am Post subject:

This is problem with deciding stuff at directors meetings that only a handful of people are able to attend. Two meetings, paper voting, blah blah blah. idk I agree that tqo general meetings just for all this is a bit much.
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Zack Attack · Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:23 am Post subject:

Is a meeting lasting an hour really a problem? In my 4 years here I have never seen anyone leave a meeting early because they lost interest. You talk about everything and make the schedule the last thing to be done. It's just ridiculous to have two half hour meetings when we can easily get everything done in an hour, at one meeting.
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SteelBallsPat · Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:36 am Post subject:

Bam!
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Abass · Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:43 am Post subject:

and just so we're clear. I canceled the "first" meeting on the 1st at the MPR. Don't even think about going behind my or Angus's back. Also, that's the first day of classes. Ever since I can remember, we've held meetings after everyone has adjusted to getting back at school. Let us not forget that not everyone lives in Lowell.

Also, bitch all you want on this forum. I'll read it and take things into consideration (if they actually make sense) for when we meet next. Speaking of which, when do you want to have the next directors meeting?
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reasonable · WUML Member Joined: 11 Oct 2005 Posts: 123

Those of you with any kind of highway commute I am sure would agree that a meeting time of 6pm would mean having to leave work at oh... 4:30. 7pm is a far more reasonable start time. It is an hour difference but would make things easier for those who have 9-5's and live no where near campus.

Abass · Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:07 am Post subject:

I know that people are supposed to be voted in in the spring, but everything seemed to fall apart at the end of the semester.

As stated, we're going to have one giant meeting on the 8th. The election process is not going to take as long as people think it will.
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JSingles · Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:03 pm Post subject:

Honestly it really doesn't matter that much.

Doing the two meetings was never about the election taking 7 hours, It was about having other things people said they wanted to go over. Nobody is going behind anyone's back, that is quite an assumption.

Nobody should be worrying about making the schedule, as Zack said, we would have to be brain dead to not be able to figure that out and he is right.

And I really don't think showing up to an hour long meeting should be a problem with people either.
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